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Fathom the Mind Podcast

On Fathom the Mind, we explore what cutting-edge science and rigorous contemplative practice can tell us about the nature of consciousness.

In this exploration, we hope to empower our listeners to live lives of both intellectual integrity and contemplative depth.

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Why this podcast?
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Since the sixteenth century, humans have used science to make incredible discoveries about the physical universe. Despite the depth to which they have investigated matter and the physical world, modern scientists’ questions about the nature of consciousness remain unsolved. We still don’t know how physical matter relates to conscious experience, and given the intense debate among modern scientific theorists, there seems to be little hope for consensus on the matter anytime soon. And yet, consciousness and subjective experience are central to every human life. Without them, scientists could not even begin their pursuit of empirical inquiry. Despite how they might sound, these questions about consciousness are relevant for all of us—not just elite researchers. As everyday people, our understanding of consciousness has real implications for what we believe our minds are capable of—not to mention what we think it means to be human.

On Fathom the Mind, we interview experts in the fields of both modern science and contemplative practice in order to explore the nature of consciousness.

Interweaving expert knowledge and the personal experiences of guests, we facilitate well-rounded conversations about the nature of consciousness, all while upholding the rigor that true scientific inquiry demands. Through this exploration, we hope to demystify and advance the conversation around consciousness in the modern world. Every so often, we’ll also discuss mind-training tools that not only support our ability to think clearly and scientifically, but also help us cultivate a deep sense of well-being.

In so doing, we hope to empower our listeners to live lives of both intellectual integrity and contemplative depth.

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Prof. Michel Bitbol is currently Directeur de Recherche Emeritus at the CNRS / École Normale Supérieure, in Paris, based at the Archives Husserl—a center of research in Phenomenology. His career, which spans the fields of medical science, quantum physics, and philosophy of mind, had its origins in a very simple childhood desire to know, in his words, “the secrets of the universe.”

While he knew that was quite an ambitious goal, he also believed it was one he could achieve through studying multiple fields of science. But along the way, there was one basic question that became harder and harder to ignore: What role does consciousness play in scientific research?

In pursuit of this question, Michel found great solace in the work of Edmund Husserl and the field of phenomenology. Though phenomenology might seem hard to grasp for the layman, Michel describes it quite simply. At its most basic level, phenomenology teaches us to become aware of—and then question—the conceptual filters through which we make sense of our lived experience. As you’ll hear, Michel thinks this stance is fundamental for new progress not only in modern science, but in philosophy and religion as well. 

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Prof. Michel Bitbol’s career spans the fields of medical science, quantum physics, and philosophy of mind. But along the way, there was one basic question that became harder and harder to ignore: What role does consciousness play in scientific research?

At the heart of many contemplative traditions, astrophysicist Piet Hut recognized echoes of the scientific method: the process of formulating hypotheses and testing them with replicable experiments.